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]]> By: dutch http://www.endleofon.com/http:/the-presidents-serotonin-levels-and-the-afghan-war/comment-page-1/#comment-6 dutch Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:17:22 +0000 http://www.endleofon.com/?p=602#comment-6 hey big guy ... just read this post ... you may have read of a time when there was no law west of the Pecos so it became "the" hideout for all sorts of bad guys ... too many of them, too much ground to cover and no in-place county mounties ... so we never actually won the war ... but we did put together a pretty good holding action with Judge Roy Bean and a couple of well-placed cavalary forts ... In my opinion, there is a war between us and lots of Muslin badguys ... and we really don't know how to win it. We do know that the bad guys do get together to train and plot ... and they choose difficult geography in areas with no effective government ... Afgan, parts of Pakistan, Yemen and Somolia ... until we can figure out how to win the war, I am afraid that american troops will be called on to "keep some order west of the pecos" (or in this case Pecoses) for some time to come to deny/disrupt safe haven. Nation building in Afgan ... not in our lifetime but maybe we can help them pull together some troops to help us a bit. so when we talk about winning in Afgan ... it is a non-starter ... and points the discussion in the wrong direction. Winning in the US may mean holding actions at best in a whole bunch of places that are not on the tourist maps. Now Iraq was a totally diffent story. After 9/11 Bush did three very logical things (to me at least: He asked: 1. where are bad guys? Afgan ... so we go there. 2. Where are the bad weapons? Iraq and Libya ... we went after what was in Iraq (meanwhile, Kadafi said, "holy shit, these guys are serious ... so here are my bad weapons ... I am turning them in." and 3. in which of the bad-weapons states is there unpredictable governments? Iraq, iran, libia, north korea et al. (just as a side note: in my opinion it was good that we found no WMD in Iraq ... a point the rest of the world understands as "Uncle Sam says, if you even hint that you have them ... expect a visit" so there is my view of the world ... oh and one other thing ... why do we continue to try to understand Al Q leadership as "command and control?" They have taken the hint from all those good western management books and are practicing "leadership by inspired vision/virgins" So the operative questions for smart guys like us is "how do you win a vision-driven war?" Might be a good discussion topic, don't you think ... maybe we could do the Huffpost ... hum hey big guy … just read this post … you may have read of a time when there was no law west of the Pecos so it became “the” hideout for all sorts of bad guys … too many of them, too much ground to cover and no in-place county mounties … so we never actually won the war … but we did put together a pretty good holding action with Judge Roy Bean and a couple of well-placed cavalary forts …

In my opinion, there is a war between us and lots of Muslin badguys … and we really don’t know how to win it. We do know that the bad guys do get together to train and plot … and they choose difficult geography in areas with no effective government … Afgan, parts of Pakistan, Yemen and Somolia …

until we can figure out how to win the war, I am afraid that american troops will be called on to “keep some order west of the pecos” (or in this case Pecoses) for some time to come to deny/disrupt safe haven.

Nation building in Afgan … not in our lifetime but maybe we can help them pull together some troops to help us a bit. so when we talk about winning in Afgan … it is a non-starter … and points the discussion in the wrong direction. Winning in the US may mean holding actions at best in a whole bunch of places that are not on the tourist maps.

Now Iraq was a totally diffent story. After 9/11 Bush did three very logical things (to me at least: He asked:
1. where are bad guys? Afgan … so we go there.
2. Where are the bad weapons? Iraq and Libya … we went after what was in Iraq (meanwhile, Kadafi said, “holy shit, these guys are serious … so here are my bad weapons … I am turning them in.” and
3. in which of the bad-weapons states is there unpredictable governments? Iraq, iran, libia, north korea et al.
(just as a side note: in my opinion it was good that we found no WMD in Iraq … a point the rest of the world understands as “Uncle Sam says, if you even hint that you have them … expect a visit”

so there is my view of the world … oh and one other thing … why do we continue to try to understand Al Q leadership as “command and control?” They have taken the hint from all those good western management books and are practicing “leadership by inspired vision/virgins”

So the operative questions for smart guys like us is “how do you win a vision-driven war?” Might be a good discussion topic, don’t you think … maybe we could do the Huffpost … hum

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